Servoy Product Update – Ron van der Burg
Servoy CEO, Ron van der Burg gives a product update and roadmap for Servoy.
Servoy Roadmap and Vision
- Servoy aims to be a holistic software development platform that empowers developers, particularly in smaller teams.
- Servoy provides freedom and flexibility without compromising on complexity or user experience, distinguishing it from low-code and no-code platforms.
- Recent interviews with 50 development teams indicate that Servoy ‘s approach aligns well with the challenges and needs of non-ISVs and corporates building their own software.
- Servoy’s priorities include delivering a great IDE with improved performance and user experience, enhancing the form designer, coding capabilities, documentation, and community engagement.
- DevOps and product lifecycle management integration are crucial, viewing application development as part of a holistic process that includes testing, deployment, maintenance, and monitoring.
Documentation and User Experience
- Difficulty for new users in understanding and using Servoy.
- Plans to improve documentation, tutorials, and templates to ease onboarding.
- Efforts to stay modern and close to Angular, including incorporating modern features from Angular into Servoy.
- Development of a form designer with features like anchoring and snapping to grids.
- Availability of NG desktop and NG Mobile in the Servoy Cloud pipeline for building mobile and desktop apps.
- Migration of documentation from the wiki to do.com for better organization and accessibility.
- Plans to improve the color scheme and contrast of the documentation.
- Emphasis on creating cases to identify and address specific issues faced by users.
Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning
- Exploration of AI and its potential to enhance the user experience through chatbots and knowledge assistance.
- Challenges in combining information from different sources and training AI models.
- Gitbook has an AI technology called Lens that allows users to search documentation using OpenAI technology.
- Sero Cloud has added natural language capabilities using the Gitbook API.
- Machine learning is being applied to log data to analyze and recommend actions.
- An AI task force has been created to explore ways to use AI technology for users.
- Customers are embedding AI capabilities into their applications, such as adding voice search and vector databases.
Future of Application Development
- The future of application development in the next 3-5 years is being explored through a survey.
- Automation, workflow management, and reuse are key areas of interest for application development.
- There is a need for simpler apps that don’t overwhelm users with complex content.
- AI-assisted development, better glasses, and a focus on security and compliance are seen as important trends for software developers in the future.
- The idea of fully AI-written code is considered unlikely.
Servoy Community and Engagement
- The Servoy community faces a challenge in attracting younger programmers, leading to concerns about the platform’s future.
- The speaker emphasizes the importance of engaging with younger generations to ensure Servoy’s continued growth.
- The Servoy team is actively working on improving the product, including better documentation, a dark mode, and a readable dark mode for the editor.
- The speaker encourages attendees to reach out with any concerns or suggestions to help shape the future of Servoy.
- Yan will be doing titanium magic tomorrow.
- The rest of the schedule is available.
Alright, also a really, really warm welcome and thank you to the guys of Sure4Camp to organize this. Maybe first applause for these guys because I think and Mark. I really think it’s special that as a private company like us, we have so many enthusiastic people, people like this from the community who bring this community to life. Yes, we have a forum, but that’s pretty cold each I would say. Meeting people, that’s, I can’t see new classes. I can see people. Yes, I think it’s really, really special that community like this exists. I think it’s getting a little bit more rare that communities like this exist. People for some kind of reason like to do everything online. Yeah, the last time five years ago, I was just during 50, if you old. And COVID, I think, did not help at all. Feels like getting people out of their house, even out of their pajamas and joint conferences like this. You’re getting more and more difficult. Well, I think I might buy the chat. That’s what I work. But I, yes, some people don’t even have to, especially if you’re a developer. You can just get out of that, go behind your laptop. Who actually works in their pajamas? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Thank you, young. You have pajamas? I don’t know. But as we can see, I’ll be on the seat. Sorry. Yeah, and I still see that on the floor where people help each other. And it was really nice, as they hear, we getting more companies that do have resources. Thanks, everyone. Some of you guys know that we have done also a bit of that in our remaining office. What we have personal service, we get more and more good question from customers. Can you help us not just tell us how to do it, but also do it. And we are getting more through the moment where we can really offer these jobs also more and more to these companies. So yeah, please like, go classy and mark and talk to these guys if you need help. Like people, it’s really, really difficult these days. They’re developing more and more scarce, even though Jet is a good way to try to do my own thing. Maybe you’re hoping that I’m going to tell you what’s going to be in the next release. If you want to know that really, then just as you want. I can tell you more about our focus to give you, I think, maybe a bit more context of what we think we are. And it could still be later already Q&A. There’s a Q&A session in just going to write. If you think about that, because maybe you guys are bullshitting, bullshitting, find tell me that we can learn. For me, and for my team, it’s also a place where we can really learn. So please tell me you’re unfiltered feedback. So we can adapt. If you look at our focus, then we can tell you where we’ll probably in the coming years. Let’s say which drives our road back will be our priorities. I think a big subject for the future is AI, and I will tell you something about that. And then, kind of something which is a little bit more interactive. It’s like I said, I really want to learn. I’m not just broadcast whatever we think. It makes more sense. So our focus, so what is the voice in our vision? And I think it has never changed. It’s really nice that John is here today. You can probably not or say no that I’m full of crap. But yeah, it was always intended for to make the life of sovereign developers easy. We always thought that or when they started it was just way too difficult to make sure of her. And that’s got maybe a little bit broader. And I think we are a holistic, sovereign development platform. Policy means end to end like a unified thing, which in our sense should not be taken apart. And we want to empower sovereign developers. And we see more and more where we do that in smaller teams. We do have some companies where there’s bigger teams, maybe up to 40 people. But both there is like a glass ceiling where these teams think and maybe have the leverage to do everything themselves without having to use platform like ours. So they are trying to build their own platforms like ours in-house. And you see that in the Netherlands probably brought to like the big banks, it’s your companies. And the IG has 500 Java developers only working on a bar there or they’re taking platform. So smaller teams. And what we also see most of these teams built complex business applications. So not something really, really simple, complex and complex have been in terms of logic, backend or really complex UX. They don’t want to be limited so that it should look and behave they want. And really that should be without compromise. So freedom I think for us is really, really important. And there’s a trend where we’ve started or tried to compare ourselves to these local platforms. And they just also where we are a bit different. Should we call ourselves a local? I think not. Because typical locales, these are still forces to have to do have compromise. It makes you go faster, but there’s also a downside of that. And if you look at the server platform, we try to really give you about the freedom that you don’t have to compromise in working really built. So this is really what we are. A nice spread of the past three months I would say. We did a bunch of interviews. And we talked about 50 development teams. We tried to figure out do we still fit. And a lot of these things for solve things, right? Like the holistic part. Yeah, you can build your own stack. You can take a bunch of technologies, try to put them together. And if you talk to these development teams, a lot of time is spent in trying to set all their own stack. If you look at complex, basic, and basic complex also it’s something like a lot of data. Complex in logistics with a lot of customers already. Logistics, trade, but typically a lot of data going on there. And like I said, we talked to about 50 development teams and tried to figure out is what we do. Does it fit onto the problems or the challenges they have? And the good is that they do. And these teams were about 8,500 are not in ISVs. So we also are trying to have more and more non-ISVs in the past. The boy was really, really focusing on ISVs. But now we see that there’s a trend that corpus and users are still a big start building their own software also and more. So yeah, with this in mind, what does that mean to what our priority are? So if we are for developers in smaller teams, then of course our focus should be on developers. And if the past I would say how long it would be working on titanium, you know, three years? No, yeah. So in the past four years we’d be really crunching hard or we, you know, on ISVs. It would be really hard on getting titanium really up to speed, making it work. We have a bunch of customers who are live on titanium in the past 12 months or so. And having said that, it takes a lot of the power of the team. And we, our priorities, need also to be, and we have to shed that little bit here there to make things work, to deliver a great IDE, is that where people will use a reward live every day. So that means great performance and great depth experience. And I know people also have to complain about that, the developers low or low, slow, slowly or better, but bear in mind that that’s really what our focus is and it’s going to be a coming, coming periods. Same for the form designer, I know people, some people, dislike it completely, they work with the outline and the team has been working hard also to move our form designer to angular, see nothing, who lays angular. And we’re working hard on that. Another important thing is coding people who, as is that, but I should might have, we have a technical advisory board. And they’ve been trying to push us to break more modern scripts to the user voice. Because people develop our developers, they like to work with most modern languages for the most, for JavaScript. So that’s on our radar. Documentation, I will tell you a little bit more about that later, work hard on that, of course, community. So these are really, really important things in our priorities. Like I said before, death loss and part-wise health management integrated, actually, so for this holistic, we try to be holistic, so end to end. And to develop an application is one thing, or to break that to the cloud, and to that right, it’s the other thing. After me, it’s going to be session by Victor every day, about several cloud, where it is today. So I put the cluster, I don’t want to tell the developer, tell you what they’re going to show. But we do that because we truly believe that just the development part is not it, it doesn’t end there. There’s a lot of time-based bank account companies to build, that’s employee maintain, monitor, applications. And we really want to put that into the product and see it as a 100% part of that. And onboarding, I guess most people here are fairly superior to the survey. But with new people, we see a lot of trouble getting them started with the survey. It’s pretty difficult for me not to download it. I saw it, but to start using it to understand some concepts, and that hurts us getting new people to the product. You don’t understand it, you download it, you install it, and don’t get it. Up to the next event, competition is one click away. To do that, again, we need talk documentation, tutorials, deadblakes. And I’ll tell you a little bit about AI. And of course, there’s always this big, big underflow for the team to stay potter. We really try to stay as bottom as possible, close to Angular instance. There’s a really cycle with all the problems that gives your audience key. But there’s a lot of spot going, and there are always there to be a lot of things that we need to keep doing. Do keep this platform water for you. So you don’t have to worry about it. All right. So examples, this is probably one example. I stopped pretending that I can go. I know a few people have seen that, but we’re putting more modern features of ECMA into the Android. Like is that more? Oh, my God. I do, I do a prior release, that’s it. Sorry. Yeah. So we try to stay closer to the latest release of ECMA. Some things are very, very difficult or impossible, but a lot of coding patterns are going into the product more and more. And it’s just not just the execution, the parts, or that it’s too, too bad. Who wants more modern stuff in this JavaScript? Even Victor. I still don’t think that they’re in. Well, we set this up. All right. Form designer. I asked team to, let’s come. I hope we didn’t make it to this release. So, for instance, one thing we’re building in the form designer is the anchoring, or how do I pull it? It’s tapping to grips and get these healthy lines in absolute positioning. Working hard to get, that’s probably going to go into next video. Yeah. Probably going to start. So things are coming up slowly. The NG desktop, for instance, and NG mobile is here, but by blind. I know people will use that a lot. We have a lot of customers who build mobile apps or desktop apps. We put it also now as part of the, or by a binary cloud. So not just building the war file, but you can actually get, you actually will already APK already. So, you can get that from the pipeline. You just configure a build and then it will create the various deployable applications for you. And the team like that will show a bunch of stuff that we do in a server platform. So, we have a lot of documentation. And if people started already, we are on the verge of all our documentation away from the wiki. And into the desktop server in the form, it’s already live. Completely refactor that. You see that already? Yeah, we put the release notes in here. I think that’s the most important today. You saw it. So, can you change the commerce scheme on that? I mean, what’s new basically is a light yellow or the white? You don’t like the color? I like a bit more of a contrast. I mean, which would pay your question for your video. The question is, can you change the color? We can’t. Yeah. I don’t care. So, we’ve refactor in that. Getting that more, I think, technical to the presentation is already in there, you know? Yeah, the desktop server. So, what’s the wiki today? Our documentation is always written pretty bottom up. So, we push all the API from our source code into the wiki. And we do that now here. And the documentation home, the talk is more top down. So, it tells you concepts, the tutorial of beginner guides. We’re putting that in there. And it’s, like I said, really for the people who are trying to onboard and understand the core concepts. Um, cases. So, how do people have cases? I always urge you guys to especially around the developer. When I am a customers, I almost always get anecdotes about hanging developer or slowness or whatever. But please, please make cases. And the other one is to tell you what can each indicate. Because we really want to focus on making the ID and of course, the better and better. If we don’t have cases, it’s very difficult to go about that. And a chance of course is that typically our people at RD don’t work with ID. Because they make the ID. So, for them, it’s very difficult to get into your shoes. Our team has a worried themselves. We do make cases. I tell Victor and it’s called it’s always if there’s this, you make cases. Yeah, we don’t know how you use it, where you run into. So, please, if we don’t have this, then it’s very, very difficult for us to do this. And to make it better and make it better. All right. AI has been working with JetPQD. Who is not in this better? I’m Peter. You’re too smart. Yeah, I will tell you a little bit about AI as a real change. In 2019, we already started with AI. And the reason for this was that I really had to feel that we could bring the knowledge of our experts or even of the community to beginners. So, I built some kind of chatbot, which you say, Hey, how do I do this? Or I can do that. Back then, we chose Deepoff loss, which is a Russian AI agent, and try to feed it our own data. Sorry. It’s a separate one. And behind that is a picture from Daaman Dogber. Back then, yeah, it did give us answers, but was extremely slow. And it was still very, very tough. We did another one in 2021. Same result. We tried to feed it. These both are weaky. So, we just dumped it all weaky and learned it. And a lot of our forward data is in the forum. It’s a lot of question answers, which AI is good to learn from. But it felt like the technology was not there yet, or we need a huge team to figure out how to make work. And this was really a test for us to see where is this technology now. And then, I think in November 22, last year, a lot of stuff changed. Who recognized the sentence, Hey, Google, how many colors are our color views already? We did a great job. Remember this. Do you still do that? I still do it too. How long ago was that when I was at your house? Well, you thought it was. Eight years ago, I stayed in John’s house in the house, and I think in the morning at breakfast, he said, I asked you to buy eight artists. I think you’re like an hour of Google Home Market. Yeah. I always asked them, Hey, Google, how many colors have you seen? And then he says, one 53 quarter, what other? And then he said, and that always gets entered into an end. It’s a conversation. So that Google understands it’s still about calories. That answers 200. And then you ask, and how much together? But it’s completely the, that’s not how you work. You want the combination of these two calories. So in November 2022, and I do, and so since then, I asked my Google assistance this question, I think, every order or so. So for eight years, I asked this my Google assistance every order to see if it got smarter. That never got smarter. See your eat has no idea. That lacks that has no idea. Nobody has a thing. So then in 2022, November, the Chet GPT 3.5 I think about, no, that’s good. I’ll sign up and I’ll play with it. And I asked this question, hey Google, or hey, I typed, how many colors you know about that? I gave the answer. And then in that poll, gave the answer. And then I did, and together. And then the title, that’s it. This is, this is you. And then I asked, and suppose I eat half of each. Figure it out. So I kept on asking the old question. The tip is really, this is really cool. This is really, really, really good thing. So we’ve been playing with over the night since then. I put more emphasis on this, as of all also. And actually, GPT 4 is already today without us learning it. Anything pretty smart. GPT 3.5 answers this with a learner something. So a learner something. So a learner in the browser. For an incentive. It gets it’s, I presume, from our wiki, or our for, I don’t know where it gets it from. And that’s really, already a big step. So what have we learned a little bit? We’ve been experimenting with embedding and fine tuning. It was really, actually doing something with AI. Oh, yeah. So today. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you’re doing a session to work, right? Yeah. Cool. And I, I was thinking, how can I make like a parallel this? And I think with embedding and fine tuning, it feels like that’s, here is GPT 4. And I can give it my library of stuff. That’s what you call it. And, and, and, and, what the turtle a little bit is that it can’t combine those books. That’s understand that. So it’s a spore guy sitting in the room. And you, you have a directory, a vector database with data, which it, it, it can search data, break, but can’t combine that. So that’s a little bit of a challenge today. And we are figured out more and more how to do this, but it’s, it’s still pretty complex. Training GPT 4, so I suppose we could train our own model, training the model itself, which organized it, they predict that, where they estimated that cost them $100 million to train the GPT 4 model models. So if we would have to feed our stuff into our model, we would have to spend $100 million, probably not. We’ll wait for this for us. So although it’s really, really powerful technology, but one hand, and we really will try to get that into our technology. Well, then there are still limitations, it feels like. So what have we done so far? So another reason why we migrated our documentation into this new Git Boot thing is to make it also more or consumable for AI. We use the ad-lashing confidence for Firelog addiction. That’s not a great format to feed into the AI’s. And the nice thing is that we use Git Boot for this, Git Boot AI technology, and then into the platform. So the nice thing is that you get already a scope lens. So if you go to www.toxelsterrobot.com, you can search. There are not a button that says it says lens. And when you type there is something, it uses open AI technology to search. or to, with the factor of database, to go through documentation. You can change the battery. Okay, and I’ll show it. Okay, so let’s see. All right. All right. Oh, my God. Fast. I didn’t speak to a quick story. Yeah, all right. Oh, my God. Fast. Well, I didn’t speak to a quick story. You’re doing the battery. Yeah, I trained it. Because I talked so fast, the battery is good. We show, and we have a, that’s Git Boot API. We use the API as with a beta jet bot in our cloud also. So we thought that. We are with that. We added natural language capabilities from shared cloud. All right, we can show that. Okay. So we are working hard to apply machine to the log data. And what we did, I think, so go show. Let’s start AI task force. To really find ways to help do big users technology for you guys. So things like analyze recommend. That could be something like a right. Right. Right. So let’s talk about your code, explain or generate. We are working hard to get today. I think it’s not ready for really. Because the quality is not good enough. But we do a lot of work to get this right. What we are planning to research and give to you is, and I guess Sean will show you how to already have customers are doing how to add battery to your applications. Like any instructor search capabilities. Like that before, big library, the way to add that stuff. Like that, do AI needs to make a separate database out of that. So the AI action can look at data of which and make it the lessons of that. And a measure of language groups into applications. Questions. All right. So because this session is called road map, I was thinking about it yet. So where do we believe applications will go in the next five years. I made a screenshot of the Hivesite all-way virtual technologies. It’s difficult to read. Things like the main thing to pro screenshot. And of course you guys were hoping that I’m going to say, yeah, I’m just a group. I can predict where this is also going. But I think here in the room, or there’s a lot of people that have vision about that. Will it go into more virtual IP, the blockchain, and the fees, all kinds of technology are emerging. A local code, a new name it. And I want to make it a little bit more interactive. If that’s okay with you. So maybe you guys can scan this QR code. And I’m going to ask you guys, where do you think application development will go in the next three to five years? Good. Oh. We’ll go back. Yes. Is it working? This is not the truth, I know. Oh, no. You’ll be the vote, I think. All right, what is that? This is anonymous, so don’t worry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. Don’t be shy. There’s no wrong answer. You’re going to use 25 characters. That’s awkward because otherwise people are going to share their life story. Mark? Come on. You’re still thinking? Yeah, it’s cool. You’re not going to be smart. No, I’m not going to be smart. I’m sorry. What are you ready? So tight. Who? ABI, who wants to say something about that? Who typed that? You can come out of your anonymous. Who said ABI? Wow. You’re probably going to have a good idea. You’re already using it, so it’s not new. You’re building a graph query right now. So guess not new, guess a need to be already there. All right. I see automation. Collaborate a little bit of that. It’s meant with that. What’s automation? Is combination very high in which there are two processes. And what’s native in the human community? RPA, maybe robotics. Not so much physical robotics types. I don’t know what I mean. RPA is like the robotic process of innovation. Yeah. Who? No downtime? Do we already have downtime? Who’s, is that important for somebody? I thought we were with a client. Yeah. I’m not doing that. Who’s there? Are you? I’m not. I’m not. I’m not. I’m not. I’m not. I’m not. I’m not. Yeah. I’m back. I’m back. People, I think you almost always preaching in cloud there is no downtime. So who has, like this difficult to say, they probably have a doubt, I had a doubt time left yesterday. Workflow management, it’s close to automation. Who is about workflow management? We have some customers that are really doing that big time. We build a, our hackathon last February. We build a workflow engine into a Savoy. We use, I think the first one of these to go faster reuse. Who sets reuse? People shall shine? Oh, reuse. Why is that? Because it was the first map. How to reuse, I think in general, close to five years, getting up, I mean, that’s something you can see in over the last years. I think that’s the challenge for every, I think, I think, make it long. We use as one of the ideal basic opportunities for the company to get more on a floor. Cool. Can you repeat? Is it a photography video? Oh, I repeat for the video. Sorry, I can, I don’t know your name. Oh, Janos, Janos said that reuse is to cut if you reuse particle your ID, I presume. Yeah, but also outside of your home. I think, we can see in the process that only the thing is, I think, is a really good thing, as a self, having their, I think, development. I think it’s a going to, and in the future, I think this is going to be a wider thing. I think it’s also a vision by Iowa, we’re seeing now some people are more open to the tools of using things that are going to be available. And I think that will be a differentiator in the coming years. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Ask, ask a chat you would need summarizing. No, Janos said that reuse is about reusing parts of ID, but also reusing, I guess, data or services from outside your company to, don’t do everything yourself or redo, I guess, that will save big time, it costs good observation, I think. Anybody want to talk about one of these subjects? What the hell they do to me? Do we agree? Say it’s already a bullshit list? No one? No, no, I find it nice. More complex is a little bit highlight. Yeah, we see more complex. We see it simply. And we see it for them. What’s meant with simple rest? Is that meant some like more point solutions? Is that the being of that? Who said that? Yes. Simple or else? It says, is that meant around that you want more point solutions for one use case or simpler to use? That is, they start to be there now. It costs a ton of content that we, and then the users are trying to make sense of what you need to do, and what you need to do. What is the content that you need to do? So I think it’s the option that we can do. Okay, I repeat that. The explanation behind it is that if the user starts with net, you get a really complex and a lot of data content throwing at you, and then you maybe lose that person in their body journey. So we need to give them more simple apps, and then maybe later on, we use it, make them more feature or something. You can talk about that when you talk about UX design. You have talked about the UX for a fight. That’s such an interesting one. All right. Well, thanks. Interesting. I have another one. What could it be to be a software developer in 20, 20, 75? What is that for you? What does that mean for you? Retire. Okay. You can see that you’re going to be able to do that. Okay. So, I’m going to do that. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. You can see it’s valid for you. Okay. Okay. Because he can speak in Spanish. Hi, You don’t want to worry about typing. My word is the biggest one there. Is it big because people follow it? No, yeah. You can follow it on somebody else’s answer. You’re talking. One word typing. Are you already retired? You don’t type anything. All right. A.I. Assistant. That’s really cool. Yeah, I think I told you before that we are working hard on getting that into the product. Or let the product be led by that. The better glasses I think. Can we put bigger fonts in IE? You don’t get bigger glasses or yeah. A lot of people retiring I guess. More focused on security. Yeah, it’s like I said, we interviewed about 50 people, 50 developed deep. A lot of them are really big on security and compliance. It’s like that in five of those things you’re at the present. So end users are not IVs. But it’s a soft big on the jet they’re here to. It was really big on security and compliance. It’s like a big part of your job. And for the rest. Yeah. The rest is less overbound. Less over phone. Maybe. Let’s secure enough. And compliance is at the big thing. Hope you’re ready. Let’s do this for yes. Yeah. I think it’s a good thing to do with the need of that in the product. Maybe be interesting to for the people who are editing the street to talk to what that could be for the product. I have it figured we have to get it out. Try to keep up. Yeah, well, you stuff lots of work. Scares. So scary. So be part of Brazil. Not human. What’s that mean? Fully written by. Fully written by. Do we believe this pool? So it’s got to be written fully by AI. Never going to. Never go to happen. But yeah, that’s true. No, because I was studying in the 1996 and then they said, ah, 4G L is going to take over the world. You only need some smart consultants and no developers needed and I was studying. Computer science. I was like, OK. And still need a lot of lot of developers. I think it’s a repeating of their cycle. I thought 4G L is going to do everything. Everything smart with all kinds of structures and just drawing forms and drawing relationships. And well, we need a lot of developers today. OK. Should I still repeat this? Yeah, but we need a lot of developers are needed all the time. So repeat repetition of 4G L at that we had a bunch of those other cycles where they always said, yeah, oh, no code. Yeah, no code is a similar cycle. I presume. Yeah. And I will probably be similar. Creative, I see. I like that. Really, I really think. I do hope so because AI assistant means you can be more creative because all the tedious things get done by AI. But it has to be secret. It does help a lot. I see it already with our developers today. But I still think really creative just is more of a personal trait than it is helping with AI. Yeah. I like it a lot. Who thinks of themselves as a creative person when they’re developing? Not, but it’s really important. Yeah, I was laughing. It’s important. And it does create finding. Or also create this in creating beauty. Maybe. I think they’re very different things. My new solutions is very different to creating beauty. I think it’s difficult to find a person with a good voice. But, yeah. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. There’s beauty and beauty. It’s also beautiful looking at good code. Yeah. There’s beauty and complexity or something, right? Yeah. I like that. Maybe if someone wants to say something and raise their hands. How are you going to grow? Yes. No questions, anyway. Just kidding. All right. I have one more. One more. Sorry. I’m going to do what you want to do. One more. Sorry. I’m going to do what you want to do. Some of those are doing not all-menting. Just the second. Yes. You wrote it up. I think some of the comments they were meant with a humor aside like the retirement and pension and better glasses and things like that. But I think it’s something we were discussing at the dinner table last night. It is a, you can’t see within the serve or community that it isn’t. Older community and we don’t get a lot of younger programmers using serve-eye. And I think that’s something that we as a community should get involved in in trying to bring in younger programmers to keep the serve-eye community going. Really good point. Great boy. At We as a company, we deal with our local university. They do a four-year computer science course, one year of which is a year in industry. We take graduates if all that year in industry, they come with us for a year. They go back, they complete their degree at the end of it. We give them a job. And I’ve got a team of six now and all of those have come through that program. And I think it’s quite an important thing if we want serve-eye to grow and be used extensively in the future that we need a younger upcoming generation. Yeah, we could help you with this. We ourselves are trying to hire, so we have a team, a community of how many people professionals are there to be there? 30. Okay. Our all-yocker people, we also do internships in our step office. I do see with our neuro customers who are typically enterprises, so not IVs, younger crew. But I guess those companies don’t set people as easy to conference like this. But I totally see this. So yeah, if you have ideas how we can help you, it is that please share that with me. We can do that. We’ve tried in the past university years in Maryland, but it seems difficult. But if people have experience with it, a lot of staff, please tell me that we can collaborate. But I totally agree. It’s a challenge. I guess it’s also where the ECMasters come from. Yeah, totally. We’ve got nearly a bit of an opportunity to go. I don’t expect things to just like more than 100 or maybe other types with the ECM. Yeah. Yeah, it was always a discussion in the technical vid report that we said, yeah, why the held U of E. Why the held U of E and that’s what I’m right now. And these features, and that was always, yeah, what people come at the university expect this and they type it doesn’t work. And so then it’s be perceived as all. So yeah. Thanks for that. Anybody else? So what will this need for the set of products in an actually divided what do you think it should be? I five more minutes. Right. Perfect. Here we go. Oh, here we go. The whole goal. Yeah. The integration. Yeah. Yeah. Basically, the new fit of the land. Okay. So you can see the light. I think the light will tell. Teethal. Yeah. All right. I think we all typed it. Oh. All right. Let’s go. I bet about you. Not that big yet. I was thinking. I explode. Yeah. I’m going to see how many places I’ve got. I’m going to get the back end. I don’t. All right. Better docs. I agree. We’re working hard on that. We have dedicated people for that now. There’s big focus on that. I see different IDE officials to decode. Yeah. I think or something. Yes. Oh, and this is visual. Yeah. That’s a typo. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. No one. Okay. You say about that. Or maybe we should do the Q and a look. Yeah. More Q and a stuff. Yeah. Of course, that’s like a, yeah. Like I said, it’s completely different because I can go to CS code and everything needs to be changed. And everybody that’s now doing the physics to decode. If you open a file, then you see certain errors. If you close the file errors are gone. Yes. If you open a complete project, you don’t see the error. You only see when you fully build it. And that’s a bit of a problem. I have the same thing with my TypeScript stuff, which I do still in the case by the way, but it’s then with the TypeScript stuff and the angle of the server. Language services. It’s the same thing. Many times, R and D people from the commit stuff, and I only see it breaking at the moment, it’s Jenkins built because they don’t see it because they don’t see it. It’s really a change file here. And all the way there, that file has a dependency on that one. And TypeScript shows don’t see that. I find that very annoying. Yeah, but there doesn’t have anything to do with the code editor because I see lots of young people use MS code or official code. I see a lot of young developers use MS code because you can run it anywhere. You can run it in talk, you can run it on a machine. And there’s so many plugins. AI integrated. It’s moving so, so fast. And Eclipse editor is lagging behind. I use that maybe to sort of don’t park our jobs. Maybe let’s move that to the Q&A. I think they’re there for us today. And we are looking at this stuff. So don’t worry. We’re taking these such as really mysterious. I understand this is taking a lot and a lot of the work. But I do. If you want to engage younger people, then it’s without something with the editor. Yeah. All right. The question is, is that the new IDE or for us, like I said before, the focus process, we need to be stay holistic platform and to take an editor out. Right. That would be very quick. It would be really helpful to make that a good way to make that a good way. And to make that a good way to make the whole thing. And to make that a good way to make that a good way to make the whole thing. You can use any other, or something that would not be the thing, the ability. But would be really good feedback. And I know these things are very discussed at the past also in a community. And we get that back from our advisory board. So that’s really on the end. I do keep on researching data at one point. We need to make decisions of things. Same for our software type, I think. And actually, we have to export. We have to run up. Yeah. cheaper lices. Whoever said that you can talk to your sales. Got this account. I don’t know. No sales. Scalability. Top really, maybe, whoever said that you can teach them something. The cost of our contact. That’s probably really worrying if people say that. Please also reach out to me. Maybe you don’t raise your hand, but that’s a bad thing for us. If I would summarize this, there’s a couple of real technical things for the suite. Darkest editor. We need a dark mode. I mean, you couldn’t make it like a ray on black. Okay. Okay. So, let’s put a Q&A here. Yeah, we can put it here. All right. Thank you for that. Final slide. Final slide. Yeah, that is if it says that customer contact, we don’t talk to you, but maybe you can talk to us. Please. And for me, this was really insightful. One of the things which the community tells us with this, really important. And we’ll put that, it gives it an eye focus on the roadmap. Shot with leading the roadmap. I will give all these two hand talks to you. Actually, he’s open for anybody to talk to. If you have ideas, if you want to talk to me, please reach out. It’s his job to get this into the roadmap. But I will reach out to do that. For now, thank you. Thanks a lot. As the difficult questions in the Q&A, we have a lot and we also got to be there. Yeah. Next up, I think is what I think a Victor showing cloud. We will for be Alex at the Q&A panel. Tomorrow, Joanna is doing his titanium magic. And the rest, I guess. Thank you very much. Thank you.
